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yagon
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Joined: 19 Dec 2007 20:56 Posts: 81 Location: Sydney, Australia
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 Adjustable downhauls
I'm thinking about getting an adjustable downhaul for my raceboard, but I'm not sure if it's worth the extra effort.
Does anyone advocate having an adjustable downhaul?
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| 11 Mar 2008 20:58 |
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1001
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Joined: 14 Oct 2007 23:38 Posts: 27
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 Re: Adjustable downhauls
It is worth it! With smaller sails and if just using one sail it is a must. With big formula sails you need only boom trims. 1001
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| 11 Mar 2008 22:27 |
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yagon
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Joined: 19 Dec 2007 20:56 Posts: 81 Location: Sydney, Australia
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 Re: Adjustable downhauls
I've just started racing longboards, and I'm surprised at how few boards are rigged with an adjustable downhaul, given how much impact downhaul has on sail trim.
I find I am constantly adjusting downhaul when sailing recreationally to get the rig 'just right' or to adjust to changing conditions..
How do you setup an adjustable downhaul rig?
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| 12 Mar 2008 19:54 |
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1001
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Joined: 14 Oct 2007 23:38 Posts: 27
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 Re: Adjustable downhauls
Reason why don´t see downhaul trims very often is that lately manufacturers have made only formula sails and they are not meant to be adjusted more than once on the beach. Other reason is that it is impossible to explain how setup those trims, you have to see them, and lot of sailors just don´t know how to. Pictures of working downhaul trims is a good idea, hello admin!!! 1001
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| 12 Mar 2008 20:23 |
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rob134
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Joined: 10 Sep 2007 22:47 Posts: 70 Location: Australia
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 Re: Adjustable downhauls
Alot of sailors at my club use the adjustable downhaul either on an IMCO 7.4, old KA's or custom raceboard sails we have got made at a local sail-maker (Barracouta Sails - Racing sails - shape & rigging) In the meantime here are a few shots I found of an adjustable downhaul that works but is not text-book. Attachment:
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| 12 Mar 2008 22:13 |
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1001
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 Re: Adjustable downhauls
I can´t put those pictures in words...
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| 13 Mar 2008 00:01 |
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rob134
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Joined: 10 Sep 2007 22:47 Posts: 70 Location: Australia
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 Re: Adjustable downhauls
That's all I have....... check back after the weekend.
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| 13 Mar 2008 00:30 |
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1001
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 Re: Adjustable downhauls
Eh, Rob don´t misunderstand me, pictures were OK! It is just that I can´t explain those pictures with probably less than thousend words. Great, if you can get more pics! 1001
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| 13 Mar 2008 04:33 |
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yagon
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Joined: 19 Dec 2007 20:56 Posts: 81 Location: Sydney, Australia
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 Re: Adjustable downhauls
Thanks for the feedback - how do you run the ropes/pulleys through the mast base (obviously you can't run through the cleat)?
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| 14 Mar 2008 05:56 |
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rob134
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Joined: 10 Sep 2007 22:47 Posts: 70 Location: Australia
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 Re: Adjustable downhauls
Here is some more pics. This a custom system, all fittings you can get from a boating place. Attachment:
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| 16 Mar 2008 01:22 |
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rob134
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Joined: 10 Sep 2007 22:47 Posts: 70 Location: Australia
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 Re: Adjustable downhauls
And some more... Attachment:
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| 16 Mar 2008 01:25 |
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yagon
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Joined: 19 Dec 2007 20:56 Posts: 81 Location: Sydney, Australia
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 Re: Adjustable downhauls
Thanks for the feedback. I will install an adjustable downhaul soon - probably when I buy a new sail for next season.
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| 30 Mar 2008 20:44 |
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Paul
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Joined: 29 Sep 2007 07:44 Posts: 18
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 Re: Adjustable downhauls
NP do an RSX one - for 99 Euros. Saw one being demonstrated when . .. bang.. another NP mast becomes a three piece. Nice video of the sail trims on 'Winning Streak' http://www.acrobat-tv.co.uk/shop/Produc ... indsurfing
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| 09 Apr 2008 07:20 |
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yagon
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Joined: 19 Dec 2007 20:56 Posts: 81 Location: Sydney, Australia
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 Re: Adjustable downhauls
I see in the photos that you've attached the top of the downhaul line to the mast above the boom using a hitch. Why do you attach it in this manner, rather than simply tie it to the boom?
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| 11 Aug 2008 09:15 |
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rob134
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Joined: 10 Sep 2007 22:47 Posts: 70 Location: Australia
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 Re: Adjustable downhauls
yagon wrote: I see in the photos that you've attached the top of the downhaul line to the mast above the boom using a hitch. Why do you attach it in this manner, rather than simply tie it to the boom? As I see it, when the wind picks up and you need to increased the force is in the line, a hitch is best as the least pressure is applied to the mast. If you attached the line to the boom you would have to attach the boom to the mast very tightly to avoid the boom slipping down the mast while sailing. I don't like to do this because the very tight clamping action could crack or damage the mast.
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| 11 Aug 2008 12:51 |
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yagon
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Joined: 19 Dec 2007 20:56 Posts: 81 Location: Sydney, Australia
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 Re: Adjustable downhauls
Thanks - that makes sense. By the way, I've found that Harken offer a v-jam block that has ball bearings in it and should be better quality than the non-ball bearing blocks: http://www.harkenstore.com/uniface.urd/ ... MEB9Y994S4
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| 11 Aug 2008 13:37 |
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pierrec45
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Joined: 27 Sep 2007 09:40 Posts: 121
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Incredible, I just replaced the mainsheet fiddle block on my large sailboat, and these windsurfer adjustable downhauls look about the same. Never thought I'd live to see those on a windsurfer...
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| 11 Aug 2008 19:23 |
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yagon
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Joined: 19 Dec 2007 20:56 Posts: 81 Location: Sydney, Australia
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 Re: Adjustable downhauls
Getting back to the mast attachment - is it better to use a rope (as per the photo) or a thin piece of webbing (to spread the load)?
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| 11 Aug 2008 19:57 |
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yagon
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Joined: 19 Dec 2007 20:56 Posts: 81 Location: Sydney, Australia
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 Re: Adjustable downhauls
I sailed with the adjustable downhaul last weekend. It was great - I can't see myself ever sailing without it. Highly recommended for all racers to use one.
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| 26 Aug 2008 07:23 |
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